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Do Dunedin's Octagon bars need a dress code?

By MSN NZ staff
Monday, November 2, 2009
Dunedin’s Octagon to clean up
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Beanies, ripped clothing and steel capped footwear have been banned in bars in Dunedin’s Octagon as part of a push to improve patron's behaviour.

All 11 licensed premises in the area have banded together to try to clean up the bar scene.

If a patron breaks the rules, they will be banned from all bars for at least 24 hours.

A permanent ban could result from continued bad behaviour.

Lower Octagon Licensed Forum spokesman Richard McLeod said at the weekend that Dunedin, like anywhere else, had issues from time to time, but the bars wanted to turn this around.

“We are trying to set reasonable standards, so that everyone can enjoy a night out in a safe environment, and violence or repeated unacceptable behaviour will result in a permanent ban,” he said.

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Mr McLeod told media he didn’t want the area’s good reputation tarnished by louts.

Radio communication between bouncers will keep each other informed about trouble makers.

Critics of the new rules say they encourage more drinking on the streets and a dress code won’t necessarily change behaviour.

Forum members, along with retailers, have put in an application to the Dunedin City Council for a trial weekend closure to traffic in the Lower Octagon during this summer.

A weekly Thursday promotion between all venues, which will include entertainment, complimentary food and free taxi ride home, is expected to attract more patrons during the summer months.

Will tightening up the dress code in Dunedin bars improve the behaviour of patrons? Or will it just encourage people to drink in the streets? Have your say below.

User comments
You can understand no steel capped boots and scruffy clothes being frowned upon, but if you look tidy there should be no reason to do turn people away because of a hat or wearing dress shorts. If 'trouble makers' want to go to the bars, they just end up dressing nice and still causing trouble. Dunedin is starting to loose its casual, everyone's your friend fell, and it is to do with more and more rules being imposed by bouncers and bars. Auckland's viaduct is the worst area to go out in due to rules creating a negative atmosphere. All that happens is trouble waits outside. What I want to know is, why is it an "OSH Hazard" for guys to wear sandals or jandals to bar on a hot day, but fine for girls ???
I was born and raised in Dunedin and lived in other parts of the country, Dn is known for its night life and we should respect that, The tourisim in and around DN and otago it solely dependent on its night life in the heart of the city, you can have a good time no matter what you wear., but when in the city you should get dressed up and have a little pride in how you carry yourself and make it a great and exciting experience for everyone, if you come in looking like a slob, you send the wrong message and people will stop going to these places , then they will close down and then you'll have no night life in down town Dunedin, you have to look at the BIG picture, how hard is it to put on a clean shirt.
Yes a dress code is needed, if they want to dress down then stay at the student bars...if your going into the city as in most cities around the world decent clothes and attitudes are required. I work hard to earn my money and when I go out to enjoy myself which for me involves dressing up, I dont want to be next to someone in steel toe caps who like like they crawled out od bed and into the bar.
I'm a local and it's still funny what dunners complain and get up to these days still the same...students etc....it's all good dont' want to end up being a posh snobby christchurch lot ewww...none of that. It's only the minority and media hype (jnr reporter who has nothing else to do).....and anyway I bet you that the ones with hoodies etc are friends with the so called "bouncers" there....other then that it's pretty safe in good ole Dunedin....
dress code yes , but age up for drinking too price up on buying beer . councling for parents and there screwed up youths if needed.
Great idea. I have observed over the years that the saying "the way we dress has an influence on our behaviour," is very true. Those who have a good attitude to changing their dress code have the character to modify their behaviour so that everyone can enjoy a night out. Those who are not and think that it is ok to behave in a drunken and loutish manner expose their immaturity and selfishness. They need to realise life doesn't just revolve around them.
YES, tidy up the act of a resprctful dress sense for EVERYBODY! 'The Octagon' is a tourist attraction for many reasons and certainly comes to life at night! Your city is something to be proud of, so remember that and be proud to show it off, by starting with a respectful image of dress standard! Make us want to visit again!!
Clothes do not maketh the man... Its Patron Attitudes than need changing. Kev
i agree with durt from waihi the dress code may solve a few problems for some people who just love to stereotype everybody, but if these so called hooligans cant get into the bars because of the clothes they wear do u honestly think that they will just call it a night and go home?? i dont think so.
Going out on the town in dunedin is possibly the safest place to go out in new zealand overall. Not once in my 3 years of study have I felt concerned for my welfare. This is more than I can say for other places such as New Plymouth, where simply walking down the main street on a Saturday night can have serious safety risks. I believe the dresscode has nothing to do with the behaviour. It is simply the people and the atmosphere. Aw well there is my two cents and no I''m not some one who goes to town once a year.