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Will the "three strikes" policy reduce violent crime in New Zealand?

02:00 Wed Jan 20 2010
MSN NZ
Rethinking Crime and Punishment spokesman Kim Workman

The Government's proposal for a "three strikes" sentencing policy, which would see repeat violent offenders who kill spend the rest of their life in prison, has sparked debate by political and social groups.

The policy, "Three Strikes and Max", outlines 36 offences that count as a "strike".

If an offender commits three “strikes” they face the possibility of being locked away in jail without any chance of release — on the third strike the judge will have to impose the maximum sentence for the crime and the offender will not be eligible for parole.

Sentences range from seven years to life imprisonment — for murder and manslaughter, the maximum is life imprisonment, sexual violation carries a maximum sentence of 20 years and for aggravated robbery, kidnapping and attempted murder it’s 14 years.

The new system would also require an increase in prison beds — an extra 56 prison beds after five years, increasing to 725 beds after 50 years.

Last year it cost $249.25 a day to keep a prisoner in New Zealand, compared to $9.92 a day to have a prisoner on a community-based sentence.

Rethinking Crime and Punishment spokesman Kim Workman told reporters yesterday that the new policy shifted the focus from the judiciary to the police.

"Under the proposed legislation, the police could, for example, lay a charge of assault with aggravated injury against an offender, which is a three strikes offence. They could then plea bargain with the offender, and reduce the charge to aggravated assault, which is not eligible, on condition that the offender pleaded guilty to the lesser charge," he said.

"Police 'overcharging' is a major issue in New Zealand, with around 10 percent of all charges laid by the police being subsequently withdrawn.

"Judges on the other hand, can only decline to sentence under the three strikes legislation, when it would be 'manifestly unjust' to do so. All the discretion lies with the police."

Mr Workman also warned of longer jail sentences.

"The longer you keep people in prison, the less likely they are to reform,” he said.

Do you agree with the government's "three strikes" policy? Or will it just create more overcrowding in prisons without reducing violent crime in this country? Have your say below.

User comments
Hi..i'm a young South African who come to New Zealand 3 years ago on a work permit. i settled in and got my PERMANENT RESIDENCE. the reason why i decided to come to this beautiful country is because i have family here and they convinced me that this is a safe and civilized country with good people. I use to be in law enforcement in South Africa for over 8 years and yes i got my trophies for being a good person and hard worker...i got shot, stabbed, beaten and bitten thrown at with bricks and stones...to come here and hear about the " three strike you out business " ....ummm let me think? are you crazy? you better off giving those killing criminals a empty bucket and drop them off on a sinking boat then to keep them in a 5 star jail and let us pay for it.....
They should have that for people who aren't kiwis like not BORN in NZ. You commit a crime 3 times you get deported in of story!! && no entry for 3 years or more but for those who have kids born here, then they could stay or leave too... NOW its the END..
It saddens me to think that grown educated politicians are so ignorant of history that they're condemned to repeat it. This media beat up of criminal behavior and the simplistic solutions proposed by the likes of Sensible Sentencing Trust and other like minded revenge seeking groups is nothing new to those who've studied European and Middle Eastern cultures and histories. From medieval times to the early 20th century - especially during the 18th & 19th centuries - increasingly severe criminal punishment that was supposed to act as a deterrent failed dismally - just as it always had even during the early Norman times in England. It was only during the post WW2 era that any attempt was made to understand why people turned to crime. It was only then that some impact started to be made and crime reduced. Poverty & ignorance have been, are, and always will be the main causes of crime. If politicians really wanted to slow down crime rates, they'd tackle the underlying causes of crime.
The 3 strikes and yr out policy is the most stupidest thing i have ever heard it's like a picnic for these people who go out and comitt these crimes they do the crime but they never serve the correct time and so they reoffend look at the murderes that r sitting in our prisons taking up tax payers money and then being released early the govenrment sucks and needs a reality check why cant we as New Zealanders choose how to punish these people i mean we r working and paying for them so i say bring back the death penalty that will clear heaps of rooms in the prisons and save tax payers money.
Bring back the 'DEATH PENALTY'..its free..I would gladly flick the switch or open the hatch..Encourage Keys & his idiots to do a test run..the justice system here is a joke, in fact the whole of NZ is a joke!!!
Why wait till the third time to put them away, do we have to wait till someone is killed owing to the violence that they do before we put them away. The offenders are SUPPOSED to be ADULTS and as adults should they should be responsable for their actions. It is no good being mamby pamby with them so get rid of them so we can have a safer society to live in. Bring back capital punishment with avengence and more lives will be save and to hell with those who are no good to society by causing harm especially to young ones.
The reason for most almost all crimes is the level of poverty in the system, when there is low poverty there is low crime...its simple human nature. I like the 3 strikes policy..I do. I just hope when these people are sitting in jail they are being educated and inspired to be better people...of which the system on the outside never gave them. The system outside can give them this but there current social situation didn't allow this....change the social situation (in prison) to allow them to change.
We should save ourselves alot of money and just kill the serious offenders eg, murders,rape etc and take a leaf out of other countries who dont have prisions and see what there deterants to crime are. What about lableling them with a tattoo on thier forehead informing us what crime they have been convicted of. After all alot of serious offenders have had no respect for the people they have hurt or effected for the rest of their lives so why should we respect them. the sooner they are off this planet or live the rest of thier with some retrobution for what they have done the better.
HMM...THERE IS TOO MANY CRIMES SO I BELIEVE THAT WHAT EVER THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DO OR ESTABLISH WILL NEVER WORK, BECAUSE THE END OF THIS AGE IS NEARING! NOT WORLD! BUT AGE! THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST SIGNS - VIOLENCE, WAR AND LAWLESSNESS. I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT MEANS, YOU CAN FIGURE THAT OUT YOURSELF!
another waste of time and effort to even implement this. I cant see why the justice system doesnt ship violent criminals and murderers (that without a doubt have been proven they killed) be sent to China or Indonesia or Thailand. The government seems keen for NZrs to lose their jobs to these countries why not pay them to get rid of our scum as well it would save us taxpayers having to foot the bill for prisoners that like going to jail to watch tv and eat good food and then let out to reoffend so they can go back. Our justice system is a joke and has a Oh you *** boy, dont do it again or else attitude. I also wonder about some of the lawyers acting on behalf of some the crims in this country or does our justice book need rewriting.

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