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Should underage drinkers need parental consent?

11:00 Mon Jul 5 2010
MSN NZ
Should underage drinkers need parental consent?

The government is considering plans to crackdown on underage drinking by making it illegal for adults to give booze to children and teens without their parents' consent.

Currently people aged under 18 can be given alcohol without their parents' consent if they are in private homes or at private functions.

Parental consent is just one of many recommendations in the Law Commission's review of liquor laws, the New Zealand Herald reports.

It suggested consent should be written or oral with a maximum fine of $5000 for infringements recommended.

However it states a parent should not be liable when the minor acted against their instructions.

Justice Minister Simon Power told the New Zealand Herald that although the Law Commission's suggestion was being considered, it was not necessarily going to become law because "national is not in the business of getting into people's homes on issues like this and telling them how to run their lives".

But Mr Power said parents had requested for such measures to help the problem of teen drinking.

A former Victoria University law lecturer John Miller outlined to the New Zealand Herald the difficulties of proving parental consent.

"The kid could carry a written permission just like a school note. But kids are always forging school notes, so how would you know?

"In another instance, you could be at a family gathering and it's your niece or nephew. You know from previous occasions that their parents would give consent, so there's implied consent," Dr Miller said.

Dr Miller said parents could see the law as intrusive and may prefer to teach their kids better drinking behaviours.

What do you think of the government's plans to crackdown on underage drinking without parental consent? Have your say

User comments
When should this ever be a subject to vote? Are you kidding.... These teenagers should not be drinking fullstop til they are 20 - 21yrs until they know exactly how to handle their alcohol intake.... Rapes and unprotected sex, assaults, O.D or even getting themselves into awkward predicaments and finding themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, they tend to get mouthy once they get the taste of alcohol then they try to be hero's and fight... regularly happens.... I personally think its wrong even asking to vote on this rubbish! Parents need to take responsibility and educate their children that drinking at their age is wrong, and the complications that come with it... (as above) never mind the consent.. Mum and Dad grow balls and say NO! go and buy a 4pack of ginger beer.. lol tell the kids to drink that...
Sure, I think it's alright for under-aged kids to drink, but only if one or both of their parents or legal guardians are there to keep them under control. How cool do you think that party or outing will be then? Better yet, if they drink outside of their (warden) parental supervised area, then '' Yes" both should be held accountable. When my daughter was 15, she could only drink around myself and or her father. If she wanted to meet a friend at the top of the driveway, the drink stayed on the table while she went to the end of the driveway but still within our view. Once she started drinking that night, she was not allowed to leave the property. This did not matter if she had consumed half a bottle. If she made a mess, 'Good Luck Cleaning Up The Rest of the House' as well. So now, alcohol really does not thrill her. She has seen both the Highs and Lows of it. So she also knows the consequences of it. She is now 17.
I agree wholeheartedly with Maggie from Europe, since when do we give out permission to break the law?. No wonder some laws are almost laughable when on one hand they say you can't do something and then on the other hand saying that if you get permission you can. It's either illegal or it's not!! Adding all the grey areas just creates more loopholes.
What is wrong with people's comprehension skills? Since when did permission of any kind be required for breaking the law. Get compliant with the current law please underage drinking IS breaking the law so no permission is required. NZ does not have one law for one and another for some-one else. Grow up first. Then you can drink.
I believe that parental consent should be given, the event organiser could be called instead of giving a note because notes can easily be forged. Parents should not be given community service or fined if their underage child is caught drinking because the parent wouldn't know that their child is trying to get alcohol. Alot of teens drink due to peer pressure. The drinking age shouldn't be raised as this punishes people who are 18 or 19, they shouldn't be punished just because underage children are drinking. A security guard should be placed outside the liquor stores and the government should pay for the security guards if he doesn't want minors drinking.
Maybe it will be good to hear from the young people themselves. I am sure they have the answers why they like their drinking. There are reasons for everything unless we get to that reason we get nowhere. Blaming young people, parents, God is not going to fix the problem. There are underline problems that need to be addressed and only young people can do that. We cannot try and change those who are not willing to change. Maybe we need to change ourselves and the way we approach this issue. Maybe the government need to change their way too.
Yes give the underage felons community service instead of fines and the adults and children be given some sort of counselling in Alcoholism AA meetings for a set amount of time. A lot of youngsters are always hanging around Bottle stores asking people to go into the store to buy their drink for a small charge TOO so bouncers may work to cut down on illegal buying to a point!, but i think the courts should look at community service for the children and AAmeetings for BOTH Parents and child. Maybe raising the age to 20 AGAIN will also help Community awareness. Today's parents maybe aren't able to be aware 24/7 of what their chidren are up to because they are working and trying to make ends meet. Insisting they do AA meeting will get to the bottom of the child's problem.
Shall we also give consent to underage sex, smoking and under age everything else. What we need is to spend a lot of money on educating our young people about all these things, prevention education is better than treatment. There is a reason 'Im sure why young people drink, either they are bored, have a terrible upbringing, have been sexually or physically abused, been teased or bullied, have some kind of condition, peer pressure, poverty and suicide attempt etc....the list goes on. Where can they get help before it becomes a problem. Maybe school is the area where the government should look at first, again parents, need to be educated as well. Need good role models for the young people and give them something to do and encourage them and for parents to spend time with them and TALK to them. Why are we becoming harsh judges. Young people are human as well. They need us to help them with transition through adulthood.
You got the question right there in front of you.. UNDERAGE... Bottom line, if you're underage don't drink, wait until you're legal and then get SMASHED. It's all they want to do anyway, is get smashed off their faces, boy meets girl, what do you expect?!? A lot of people drink to boost their 'confidence', like seriously why?!? If a person is not going to like you for you then it's their loss, alcohol doesn't fix things or make 'fun times' it destroys you.. Have no idea why MAN MADE booze && it's accident prone, while GOD MADE hemp & its illegal.. Which one would you trust the most? Man Made or GOD made??
police have bigger fishes to catch than to crack down underage drinkers. they are UNDERAGE.. which means they are still under their parents responsibility. let those underage drinkers' parents look after them. police should be focusing more on catching criminals and making new zealand a safety place for everyone. and on the other hand, the government should focus on educating children by giving them an extra hour at school to study academically. and more sports programmes or any outdoor programmes after school and during school holidays...these will tire the kids down and will put them on the right track for the future. kids are full of energy and they want challenges..so why not give them that challenge that can benefit towards their future.

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