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Southland man warned over farm cremation

13:30 Wed Apr 4 2012
AAP
Southland man warned over farm cremation
Southland man warned over farm cremation

A Southland man has received a police warning after cremating his father's body on a family farm.

The body of John Ramage, who died of natural causes in Southland Hospital before Christmas, was cremated in a huge fire at the farm of his brother, Chris, in the Southland town of Nightcaps.

Invercargill police Sergeant John De Lury told the Southland Times Mr Ramage's son organised the cremation.

"He wanted to cremate his father and he wanted to be present when it happened. The crematorium people weren't going to let that happen - so he did it himself."

The "monstrous" fire had burned for two days, and was sufficient to cremate Mr Ramage's body, Sgt De Lury said.

While it was legal to cremate people outside of a crematorium, as some religious denominations did, the son did not have the required paperwork.

"It is my understanding that if he had asked for a certificate he would have got it," Sgt De Lury said.

The man received a warning from police.

The maximum punishment for carrying out a cremation outside of a crematorium without permission is a fine "not exceeding 500 pounds" or up to 12 months' imprisonment.

Should people be allowed to hold their own cremations? Have your say.

User comments
yeah well why not he should be allowed
it's like the right to end a loved ones misery with assisted suicide. Cremating a loved one is a personal business and should not be interfered with by the government. It is once again an infringement on a persons freedom by definition of the word and democracy forbids this
I don't see what the big deal is. Why is this even news he didn't do anything wrong, let him mourn.
Definitely YES, as long as they can do the job properly and obtain a certificate. Most of us have been emotionally and spiritually hoodwinked into the 9K+ funeral which is like religious and spiritual blackmail. Don't get me wrong. I think the funeral homes provide a great service for people that need that. but there are more affordable alternatives for free thinking people.
Yes people should be able to cremate their NOK. There is no certainty you get the correct ashes back from a crematorium. Also I have heard first hand that there are so few ashes for babies that they have added ashes from other remains and also any gold does not melt, so they should tell you to remove wedding rings as they don't return them.
Definitely YES, as long as they can do the job properly and obtain a certificate. Most of us have been emotionally and spiritually hoodwinked into the 9K+ funeral which is like religious and spiritual blackmail. Don't get me wrong. I think the funeral homes provide a great service for people that need that. but there are more affordable alternatives for free thinking people.
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no they shouldnt be allowed to conduct their own cremations but crematorioms shoul make allowances for the religious needs of groups
I think that people should be allowed to cremate their own families as long as they have a death delecartion form and notify the police and fire people.... and thats all police should not be the people to decide who is and who is not..... it should be our own choice... in some cultures it is must but near a cememtary like a place where everybody is able to view it and they can stay their until it is fully been burt to the ground.
Death and grief are very personal and I think if someone wants to be able to create a loved one themselves they should be allowed to as long as other family members are in agreement with it happening and they have the correct paperwork. But they would need to ensure other people and property were kept safe.

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